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I bought a Clymer's manual off of E-bay for my Yota. Much better than the Chilton's. Probably because the Clymer's is from the early 90's and only covers the 80's models. Whereas the Chilton's tries to cover every Toyota truck on the planet ever built.Rolleyes
Ran into the same deal with the Ford Chilton's manual. It covered like '74 to '96 which is like 2 or 3 generations of trucks. So it covered everything, but nothing in detail.
You can also find dealer FSMs on E-bay from time to time.


Yes, I'm on my 3rd cup of coffee this morning.Big Grin

fd59

Well, I found the culprit..... What?s that saying about when we arse-u-me something?

Well... Monday, when I put the new Ignition module on and the Trooper only went a couple of blocks before the engine quit I "assumed" that I had just fried another module. It was almost midnight so I decided I would quit for the night and solicit suggestions for solutions to my problem on the forum the next day. (BTW-Some excellent advice was given! Thanks) Tuesday night I had our monthly FD training. So I was finally able to "tackle" the Trooper last night about 10PM.

First, I tried to crank the truck in hopes that there may have been some divine intervention by God to help me out. But, that was not the case. Then, when I got under the hood I realized something... I did not smell any gas fumes and the throttle body had no residual gas in it from when I just tried to crank the engine. I then connected a timing light to see if I was getting fire and lo-and-behold bam!!!! The engine was firing!! I hadn't fried the module after all. Now I was getting excited. "We're making progress!" I decided to check for any trouble codes, but none showed up. I had another "gut" feeling that I had fuel pressure, but for some reason the injectors were not getting the signal to open up. So, off comes the distributor cap to check the ignition module again. As soon as I lift the distributor cap "POW!" the problem hits me right between the eyes! The lash time I attached the distributor cap I pinched the injector signal wire between the cap and the distributor. I fixed that problem and was running again, but still not running right..... It would just barely idle and had no power. I still had the timing light attached so I checked the timing..... It was firing about 15deg After TDC. I spent the next 1/2 hour or so trying to get the bolt loose that holds in the distributor. This was a major pain! Who ever designed that mechanism for holding in the distributor on GM engines should be shot! But, I finally got it. I set the time to 10deg before TDC and went for a 15 min drive around 1am. The engine is running better that it has in the last couple of years.

Again, thanks for all the help!
fd59 Wrote:Well, I found the culprit..... What?s that saying about when we arse-u-me something?

Well... Monday, when I put the new Ignition module on and the Trooper only went a couple of blocks before the engine quit I "assumed" that I had just fried another module. It was almost midnight so I decided I would quit for the night and solicit suggestions for solutions to my problem on the forum the next day. (BTW-Some excellent advice was given! Thanks) Tuesday night I had our monthly FD training. So I was finally able to "tackle" the Trooper last night about 10PM.

First, I tried to crank the truck in hopes that there may have been some divine intervention by God to help me out. But, that was not the case. Then, when I got under the hood I realized something... I did not smell any gas fumes and the throttle body had no residual gas in it from when I just tried to crank the engine. I then connected a timing light to see if I was getting fire and lo-and-behold bam!!!! The engine was firing!! I hadn't fried the module after all. Now I was getting excited. "We're making progress!" I decided to check for any trouble codes, but none showed up. I had another "gut" feeling that I had fuel pressure, but for some reason the injectors were not getting the signal to open up. So, off comes the distributor cap to check the ignition module again. As soon as I lift the distributor cap "POW!" the problem hits me right between the eyes! The lash time I attached the distributor cap I pinched the injector signal wire between the cap and the distributor. I fixed that problem and was running again, but still not running right..... It would just barely idle and had no power. I still had the timing light attached so I checked the timing..... It was firing about 15deg After TDC. I spent the next 1/2 hour or so trying to get the bolt loose that holds in the distributor. This was a major pain! Who ever designed that mechanism for holding in the distributor on GM engines should be shot! But, I finally got it. I set the time to 10deg before TDC and went for a 15 min drive around 1am. The engine is running better that it has in the last couple of years.

Again, thanks for all the help!


when was the last time you did a tune-up? Confused

fd59

dvdswan Wrote:when was the last time you did a tune-up? Confused

As far as setting the time..... well...... lets see...... uuuuhhhhh never. As long as it was running I just ran it. I did do spark plugs, sp wires, oil change etc. Just never adjusted the timing. Now that I have the stuff (timing light) and have done it, I will check it on a regular basis. I'll be checking the timing on my Toyota and '68 Chevy this weekend.
Darn you figured it out! I was going to tell ya to get the wire out from under the cap lol. Big Grin
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