ok, so i've been test driving the jimmy the past 2 weeks and about every 20 miles or so on the new bearings the outer wheel bearing on the passenger side will get destroyed and there will be metal shavings in the hub and it will start to leak oil out the seal. it looks like the cage is what is getting tore up. this just happened to my third set of bearings and it's always that one bearing.
anyone have any ideas? i'm getting tired of dealing with this... the other side is fine.
bent spindle maybe? I would think it would have to be either the spindle or the hub...hopefully the hub. Try switching the hubs and see if it then does it to the drivers side.
replace the 14 bolt with a Dana 70... Problem fixed =)
Just kidding do what Joseph said
I had this happen on my 14 bolt, it turned out to be the hub on mine.
joseph knows his stuff on a 14 bolt. but im w/ chris on this get a 70
TOYOGUY Wrote:joseph knows his stuff on a 14 bolt. but im w/ chris on this get a 70
give me a 70 and i'll put it in
You can get a Dana 70 for $50 - $100 They are cheap like the 14 bolts. Alex and I had a conversation about the many months ago and thanks to him I was able to get this exact information again. Just some information why I'm right and Joseph is wrong HAHA =)
Some Specifications and Facts on the 14 Bolt:
Max gearing is 5.13:1
Very limited locker selection
1.5 30 Spline Shafts
Max Torque Rating: 6242 Lb-Ft of Torque
Cast Iron Housing
Some Specifications on the Dana 70:
Max gearing is a massive 7.17:1
Excellent Locker Selection
1.5” 35 Spline Shafts
Max Torque Rating: 8,000 lb-ft or 8,800 lb-ft for the HD
Nodular Iron Housing
Chris@whiterhino Wrote:You can get a Dana 70 for $50 - $100 They are cheap like the 14 bolts. Alex and I had a conversation about the many months ago and thanks to him I was able to get this exact information again. Just some information why I'm right and Joseph is wrong HAHA =)
Some Specifications and Facts on the 14 Bolt:
Max gearing is 5.13:1
Very limited locker selection
1.5 30 Spline Shafts
Max Torque Rating: 6242 Lb-Ft of Torque
Cast Iron Housing
Some Specifications on the Dana 70:
Max gearing is a massive 7.17:1
Excellent Locker Selection
1.5” 35 Spline Shafts
Max Torque Rating: 8,000 lb-ft or 8,800 lb-ft for the HD
Nodular Iron Housing
The Dana 70 is a great axle for pulling heavy loads, because of it's size and the brute strength that comes with that size. But if it was all about brute strength we would all run rockwell 5 tons...what makes the 14 bolt superior is a better design and enough heft to stay together.
What kills parts in what we do is shock loading...in turn what kills gearsets is that shock loading causing axial deflection of the pinion shaft...especially with the small diameter pinions (due to steep gearsets) we run. The best way to keep the pinion from deflecting is with a 3rd bearing on the nose of the pinion...just like ford did with the for 9 inch way back, which is still the axle of choice for comp guys running 400+ HP and 40" stickies. There is no 3rd bearing on a 70...because it's not a better design...just a bigger dana 60.
Your information is kind of out of date...theyr'e now making an ARB for the 14 bolt...so I can get a full spool, mini spool, ARB, and detroit...what else would you want. The gear selection might bother some guys...I don't think I will ever run over a 4.56, maybe a 5.13 but I doubt it...either way that won't bother me.
The other thing that makes the 14 bolt superior by design is how easy it is to set up gears in...it was designed with threaded collars to adjust the backlach and a drop out pinion cage to make setting pinion depth a breeze. It doesn't seem like a big deal untill you find yourself pressing the bearings off a d-70 (or the great majority of other axles) for the 15th time trying to get your backlash, pinion depth, or pattern right.
Youv'e got to remember...The dana 70 was obviously a dana/spicer product that gm could readily buy from them if they had wanted to...just like they used dana 44s and 60s. Instead they elected to spend the money developing a new (kinda new, they took some pages out of the old Eaton's book) 1 ton rear axle cause they thought they could design and manufacture a superior product...and that's what they did.
You're compairing apples to oranges when you through the rockwells in there. Alot of the large buggys to run rockwells. But with rockwells you have a size difference that has to be accounted for. We are talking about the 14 bolt and the Dana 70 that you and I always mess with each other about. Yes while addmitted and I have, the 14 bolt is MUCH easier to setup than the Dana 70, but with a set of setup bearings or the old set of bearing ground to fit nice but easy to take of makes that a mute point =)
Yes I know there are most locker options now on the 14 bolt and while I didn't state it there is also a Spool now for the Dana 70, mind you it costs as much as a Detroit.
Oh and by the way, The Dana 70 is just a larger Dana 44 .... =)
Chris@whiterhino Wrote:You're compairing apples to oranges when you through the rockwells in there. Alot of the large buggys to run rockwells. But with rockwells you have a size difference that has to be accounted for. We are talking about the 14 bolt and the Dana 70 that you and I always mess with each other about. Yes while addmitted and I have, the 14 bolt is MUCH easier to setup than the Dana 70, but with a set of setup bearings or the old set of bearing ground to fit nice but easy to take of makes that a mute point =)
Yes I know there are most locker options now on the 14 bolt and while I didn't state it there is also a Spool now for the Dana 70, mind you it costs as much as a Detroit.
Oh and by the way, The Dana 70 is just a larger Dana 44 .... =)
I'm not actually sugesting that we go to Rockwell 5 tons...but alot of guys seem to base their belief that the dana 70 is a better axle just on the sheer mass of it...there's more to it than that
Setup bearings or not...it's still as hard as any other axle to set up gears in...while the 14 bolt is among the easiest.